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Brian
Hi, and welcome to the Somatic Coaching Academy podcast. Ani, how are you?

Ani
I’m good, thanks, Brian. How are you today?

Brian
I’m ready for today’s topic. Yeah, you’re super, super excited. I’m super excited for today’s topic.

Ani
Amazing. So we had a question from a listener. She heard us talking about how we can’t find outside of our body what we can’t find within our body. What’s up with that? How does that work? Yeah.

Brian
So the actual phrase, which is from the Upanishad, and we base… This is the phrase we base all of our certification programs on. It’s so powerful. The idea is what you can’t find in your own body, you will never find elsewhere. That’s the actual quote from the Upanishad.

Ani
Yes. Inquiry minds want to know, what’s up with that? How does that work, Brian?

Brian
How does it actually work? Yeah. Okay.

Ani
It’s interesting, right? It’s a great question because when you don’t really understand how it works, then it really looks like what’s outside of you affects what’s inside of you, and what’s outside of you is real. Yeah. And if you want to change it, you got to change it outside of you.

Brian
When I first read that quote, I wanted to understand how it worked, too. Of course. So I did a lot of research and studying about how does that actually work. This is an ancient quote. What’s really interesting is the ancient seers- They knew how it worked. They knew it. Because they spent a lot of time in nature, but also in consciousness. In Practicing connection with pure consciousness. Sure. That’s where all of the answers to everything exists in pure consciousness. In our Western world, we spend a lot of time with empirical and research learning.

Ani
We spend a lot of time in distraction, Brian.

Brian
No, but the way we try to answer questions in the Western world is with research. We research with physical matter, like with things that… And by the way, quantum physics hasn’t even come to an agreement that physical matter actually even exists. Which is the on-ramp to this, understanding this quote. To understand this quote, you actually You have to take a leap. Just to start with, you have to take a leap. You have to understand and accept from the very first outset that the outside world is not objective. The world you think you’re perceiving, this table, this microphone, this cup, they’re actually not real. And by not real, I don’t mean that they don’t have physical form because they do. They are a pattern, an energetic pattern that shows up within the whole unified field of everything. And the vibrational frequency of the pattern is slow enough where it has tangible form. But ultimately, it’s still vibrational information.

Ani
So you’re saying it’s not real because it’s vibrational information. Is that why you’re saying it’s not real?

Brian
Well, I’m saying it’s not real It’s real because- Are you saying it’s not real because it’s subjective? It’s actually subjective. It’s not objective. Objective means it has some type of real measurable quality about it. The only reason we can measure it as humans is because we have been taught how to measure it as humans. Let’s back up a second because this conversation can get really deep, really fast. Well, it might have already gotten. Might have already gotten there.

Ani
You said quantum field.

Brian
But if you want to understand how this works, how this really works, which you cannot find your own body, you’ll never find elsewhere, you have to first understand and accept that the outside world isn’t objective, it’s subjective. The outside world is a projection of how your nervous system has been taught to organize and make meaning of the information outside of your body.

Ani
Because we know only a fraction of the information that we think we see comes from visual information, a very small percentage. But most of the information that we think is visual information is actually our perception.

Brian
We’re actually producing it. We’re producing it. We’re actually a vast majority in the 90% realm, right? Of what we think we’re seeing outside of us, we’re actually producing inside of us and projecting it out onto the outside world. Just think about this for a second. If you look at a flower, a flower doesn’t call itself a flower. A flower doesn’t call itself a flower. A flower is a pattern of vibrational information that you as a human and thousands of years of other humans, have been taught to identify that vibrational field by calling it a flower. But the flower doesn’t call itself a flower. The The only reason it exists as a flower is because you’ve been taught that it’s a flower. Same thing with a tree. A tree doesn’t call itself a tree. This cup doesn’t even call itself a cup. As humans, we have organized the vibrational information outside of us into concepts.

Ani
Which are very important for us to be able to live.

Brian
To be able to live and communicate and organize and all that stuff. But the problem is, if we’re unconscious, we will begin believing that those things are real, and they’re not real. A flower is really only called a flower, again, because humans have been taught to call it a flower, in a sense.

Ani
Right. And so that accounts for the idea that you and I will both look at a rose and call it a rose. However, you and I will both look at a human behaving in a certain situation and judge it differently or have different concepts around what that behavior means and how we should interact with it.

Brian
This actually goes in strata here. We have the physical world like a flower, like 100%. Now, if I grew up, though, in a culture that called a flower a tree, then I would know it as a tree, and you would know it as a flower because you were taught it’s a flower, and I was taught it’s a tree. Now, who’s right or wrong? The flower or the tree don’t care what you call it. They’re a vibrational field of information. They are operating in a larger field, and they’re doing what they have been programmed and patterned to do. The humans are the ones that care about naming things. Then we fight over what they’re named or called or that stuff. You really think it was crazy, right? Because we would like getting a fist fight over, that’s a flower, that’s a tree, thing based on what we were taught about it, and the flower doesn’t care at all. But the only reason you’re calling it flowers, you’ve been taught it. And the only reason I’m calling it trees have been taught. And so those are physical things. And so oftentimes, we’re taught that we can only believe in things that we see as the flower or the tree.

Brian
But what about oxygen molecules? I asked people this in trainings. Say, well, do you believe in oxygen molecules? Ani, do you believe in oxygen molecules? Sure. Can you see them? No. Why would you believe in them then? Because I was taught. Because you were taught that they exist thing. Isn’t it funny that some things we do see, we do believe in, and other things we don’t see, we don’t believe in or do believe in? Do believe in, yeah. Kind of thing. I just want to basically, let’s just debunk what we believe in. We’re taught what to believe in, whether we see it or we don’t see it. We’re still taught to believe in it based on how we were taught to believe in it. We believe what we believe because we were taught to believe in it, whether we can see it or we can’t see it. Let’s let go of the idea that you’ll believe it when you see it. Because that’s totally nonsense.

Ani
You’ll believe it when you’re taught it.

Brian
Yeah, basically, you’ll believe it when you’re taught it. That’s how it really works. To your point, is that what goes on outside of us, sometimes there’s things in, quote unquote, physical form outside of us, only because that vibrational information has slowed down enough for us to identify it as being more physical than things that aren’t in physical form. But even at that, we are projecting out onto the world the meaning we’re making about those vibrational patterns because we’ve been taught to make meaning of them. Outside of us, they just exist as vibrational patterns. We project the meaning out onto them, first of all, from the inside out.

Ani
We project the meaning because we are humans and we are meaning makers, so we do.

Brian
We’re going to project it out there. Now, that also happens for non-physical things, much to your point. So behavior is a non-physical thing, but it’s still a pattern. It’s still a vibrational pattern. So we could both see someone theoretically outside of us, because actually, is anything ever outside of us? It’s actually not. It’s always inside of us. But let’s just say for the sake of incorrect but common knowledge that it happens outside of us, even though it’s not outside of us, so you think. When you’re trying to answer this question, this is why I’m saying it gets a little complicated. But I’m also saying that you’re doing it already this way. We’re already living like this, right? Yeah. Because if we were both listening to a speech, let’s say, let’s say someone is given a speech and we’re both listening to it, we could feel Like, dramatically diametrically opposed about what was being said during the speech, right?

Ani
Do you remember when we went to see the Dalai Lama? I do.

Brian
Yeah, exactly.

Ani
We went to see the Dalai Lama with friends, and we came out and we were like, Wow, I loved it when the Dalai Lama said this, and our friend said, I didn’t hear the Dalai Lama said that. But I loved it when the Dalai Lama said this. And we were like, We didn’t hear the Dalai Lama said that.

Brian
Yeah, exactly. It’s crazy, right? So we’re sitting like, right- Were we in the same- We’re in the same room? Yeah, we’re listening to the same speech as that person, the Dalai Lama, thing. So you could hear the same words that someone else is even saying, but make completely different meaning about it. Has that ever happened to you, listeners? Yes, it’s happened to you. Is it the thing outside of us then that’s real, or is it the way that we are projecting out onto it that’s real? In other words, everything is subjective. Nothing is objective. When you really look at it from a quantum physics, vibrational quantum field perspective, everything is subjective. Let’s just build this a little bit further. How does that actually work? Well, inside of our Inside of our brain, you have a structure called the thalamus. Every 10th of a second, one-tenth of a second, that’s 10 times a second, at least, you get a wave pulse that travels from your thalamus that goes all of the connective tissue in your body with what you’ve been taught about the world, your beliefs, essentially.

Ani
The connective tissue is not just your patellar tendon.

Brian
It’s everything. It’s the most ubiquitous tissue in your body. It surrounds all your muscles, surrounds all your nerves. It touches everything. It holds your whole body together. It’s electrically conductive. So connective tissue carries electrical information, which by default then also has electromagnetic field frequency associated with because of Faraday’s law. I bet our listener who asked this question is like, I’m sorry, I asked at this point.

Ani
Have broken your brain yet.

Brian
But You want to answer the question of how it works? This is how it works. So literally, there’s an- People at the beginning to sit down. That’s it. Get a cup of coffee. There’s an electromagnetic wave field frequency that propagates from your brain and goes through your body and then extrapolates out into the environment around you that basically projects out onto all of the vibrational information outside of you what you already believe about the world. That’s how it works. The idea is that all of us make meaning about the world before it happens.

Ani
We’re making meaning right now. What happens next?

Brian
What happens next? You’ve already made a meaning about it. If we’re listening to a speech or watching someone do something, and we have diametrically opposed opinions about what just happened, we actually didn’t come up with those opinions while we were watching the thing. We came up with those opinions before the thing even happened. That’s already happening. Right now, actually, if we… Let’s just tap into a quote, one of my favorite quotes from Lisa Felman-Barrett. She wrote a book called How Emotions are Made. I’m going to read a quote right here. She says, The human brain is anatomically structured so that no decision or action can be free of interoception and affect. Just break those words down. Interoception is sensations or feelings in the body. And affect is how we feel about those sensations in our body. But what she’s saying is that the human brain is actually anatomically structured so that no decision or action can be free of interoception and affect. In other words, you never make decisions in a bubble. You always make decisions based on how you feel the sensations in your body and also how you feel about the sensations in your body, how you judge them.

Brian
She goes on to say, your bodily feeling right now, listeners, will project forward to influence what you feel and do in the future. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy embodied within the architecture of your brain. When you hear that, Ani, what lands for you?

Ani
Yeah, that’s how it works. I’m just listening to the whole thing. If you want to be able to change how you feel about things in 20 years from now, you got to change how you feel about things because otherwise, you’re going to feel about things in 20 years from now, how you feel about things right now.

Brian
No, exactly.

Ani
If you want to feel different in 20 years from now, you got to do something about it. By the way, in case you didn’t get this memo, this is what we do here at this MediCoaching Academy. I just want to make that very clear. Making it very clear, yeah. But it’s true. People are living their lives, and they don’t like what they see, what they’re doing, how they feel. And they want to fix it, Brian. Not only do they want to it, if they knew that they were going to feel the exact same way in 20 and 30 years from now, unless they do something different, I think the urgency to do something different might just be elevated. It’s that big of a deal.

Brian
Yeah, huge. Love it. I love how you’re describing that.

Ani
Once you change it 20 years from now, it’s going to be better because you took the time to change it today. I think there’s a lot of… Now, see, you asked me my opinion, and now I’m on a roll. I think one of the things that comes up for people when it comes to change is most people don’t change things until things get really bad. Yeah. Okay? Sure. The things that come up that cause us not to change things in our lives are like, I don’t have the time, I don’t have the money. It’s inconvenient. The world of self-development is paved with inconvenience because at some point, you’ve got to make a decision that it’s worth it enough to be inconvenienced in the fact that you’ve got to change something on your calendar, or you’ve got to pay for something now to be able to change things. But when we look at the profound impact of taking the time, the energy, the money, whatever it is, to be able to make a change in something that impacts the rest of your trajectory, it’s important. Okay, I’m done.

Brian
You set? Yeah. That’s good. That was awesome. Great soapbox. Okay, thank you. Loved it. I just want to reflect back to people an example that may make sense for folks. Sure. Okay. Is there anybody out there listening who on a regular or semi-regular basis experiences things like anxiety, desperation, feeling like they are upset, out of control, that stuff. Then you’ve gone on vacation to a peaceful place and then created some type of drama while you were there or discovered, let’s say, discovered some type of drama when you were there because it wasn’t you creating it. You went to this peaceful place, but something happened with the food or something happened with the check-in process or something happened with the car or the kid, whatever it was. You’re at this supposedly peaceful place, but you’ve found plenty of things to be anxious, out of control, desperation about while you’re there. That happens to people all the time. What’s up with that? You bring yourself where you go. You bring yourself where you go. This is the same point. You’re already finding outside of you what you have inside of you. It’s already happening. The whole idea of what you can’t find inside of you, you never find outside of you.

Brian
You’re already finding outside of you what you have inside of you. You have a little smirk.

Ani
What’s going on? You’re just reminding me of, remember when we went to see Jerry Seinfeld and Jim Gaff again in Montreal? Both of them were doing a shtick how bad vacations are. Why do we even go on vacations? They said exactly what you’re saying, so that we can fight in different places and pay for a hotel while we’re doing it. The whole arena is just in stitches about the truth of the situation that we think we’re going to go on vacation and have a good time, but we literally do the same thing we did at home. We just do it, and it’s expensive in a different place.

Brian
Yeah, exactly. Again, everyone, the whole, how many people, 30,000 people that were in the arena understood that perfectly. It’s just us. That they’re having that experience. I’m wherever I go, there I am. Wasn’t it Ramdass who said, wherever you go, there you are? That’s it. That’s essentially what he’s saying is that you’re already finding outside of you what you have inside of you. Again, that’s why we know that if you know what’s inside of you, just look at what you’re finding outside of you, and that’ll tell you. It’s already happening. It’s already happening. The thing is, if you want to find something different outside of you, then you have to first find it inside of you. That’s what this quote is basically saying. If you can’t find it in your own body, you’re never going to find it elsewhere. Right now, you can find plenty of anxiety, distress, pain in your own body. Outside of you, you find plenty of anxiety, pain, and distress. When inside of you, you can find centeredness and calm and peacefulness, whatever it is, then you will start finding that stuff outside of you.

Ani
When I get a new client, they tell me what they want to achieve in their life, and then I ask them a question. For example, the client will say, I really want to feel more safe. I really want to have more fun. I really want to enjoy my life and be in joy more often. I say, How often do you practice that? There’s a pause, and they’re like, What do you mean? How often? Okay, you want to feel joy. How often do you practice joy? You want to feel safety. How often do you practice safety?

Brian
Yeah, totally.

Ani
It makes perfect sense.

Brian
They would respond to your question that way because when you’re under the illusion that the outside world is real, what it puts us in a victim relationship with the outside world, and then we always allow the outside world to determine how we feel inside. But the funny thing is, is we’ve actually projected our inside onto the outside, and then we’re just seeing the outside and blaming the outside for how we feel inside when that’s how we feel inside to begin with.

Ani
Well said.

Brian
If we If we wanted to go into a creator mindset, what we would know is that we are projecting our inside to the outside all the time. If we wanted different outside, which actually isn’t even an outside because it’s all one unified field, that we’re going to practice, to your point, Ani, practicing joy, practicing those things, those are practicing sensory states. Joy is a sensory state. Centredness is a sensory state. Peacefulness is a sensory state. Calm is a sensory state. They’re all descriptions of contextual sensory states. When you practice regulating your nervous system and amplifying and working with the sensations that are the raw data that composes those experiences, then you will start experiencing those things on the outside.

Ani
You are not going to get those things on the outside just by regulating your nervous system. I want to make that very clear with what That’s what Ryan just said.

Brian
That’s step one, though. Exactly. But it’s the necessary step one.

Ani
It is step one, and it’s important.

Brian
You can’t go on to step two without step one. Correct.

Ani
I’m with you. Hear us on this. Hear me now and what does it say?

Brian
Listen now and hear me Listen now and hear me later.

Ani
Yeah. That is step one. But if you really want to change it, you have to do more than regulate your nervous system. I’m just making this point because now that somatic is a buzzword word, like organic used to be, people think they understand somatic as soon as they know how to take a deep breath or they know how to feel the difference between hyperarousal, hypoarousal, and then optimal arousal. People think they’ve, quote, unquote, got it. That is a part of what’s going on here at the Somatic Coaching Academy is regulating your nervous system. And then you also get to learn how to reconfigure the inside so that the outside presents.

Brian
With sensation-based tools. Sensation-based tools. We go beyond somatic. Somatic work is a very big umbrella. It just means you’re working with the body. The specific somatic work we do here is sensation-based motivation coaching, sensation-based work. We’re not only teaching how to regulate your nervous system, which is step one, we’re also teaching how to consciously modify and recreate a new sensation base so that you can create a new reality for yourself. That’s essentially what we just laid out for you. We, again, imagine reality happens outside of us, but it’s always a projection of what’s going on inside of us. When you can consciously choose, consciously choose your sensory base, you can create anything you want outside of you. But step one is with that nervous system regulation, which is we do in somatic practice essentials, our level one program. People who take that program certainly become teachers of other people, hold classes, and all those kinds of things. Very, very important. But most importantly, they’re doing it for themselves so they can create a new reality for themselves. We have people come take the Somatic Practice Essentials program who don’t go on to do teaching. But for them personally, it’s a transformative first step for them.

Ani
Because then when you go to level two, you start to bend reality. Yeah, exactly. But you can’t learn to bend reality until you know how to regulate your nervous system.

Brian
Until you know how to tap into the sensory states of the raw data of bending reality. Yeah.

Ani
Well, my reality is this was super fun.

Brian
Yeah. So hopefully, listeners, that landed in a way where you can make sense of it.

Ani
You might have to listen a few times. That’s okay.

Brian
Download it and listen a few times. That’s the basic reason why what you can’t find in your own body, you will never find elsewhere.

Ani
Awesome. Well, Brian, I would like to find lunch, so let’s go do that. And listeners, we will see you next week. Thanks for joining us on this episode.

Brian
Have a great one. Bye-bye.